tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post7187968224018762578..comments2024-03-26T22:16:26.572-04:00Comments on Terrierman's Daily Dose: The Russell Terrier: A Contrived HistoryPBurnshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05781540805883519064noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-43970584804373876842013-02-03T13:54:35.324-05:002013-02-03T13:54:35.324-05:00Hi there and greetings from Finland.
We have here...Hi there and greetings from Finland.<br /><br />We have here 2 breeds, Working JRT's and Parson Russel Terriers (I'm not going to mention Jack Russel Terriers which are totally different, AND I think these are fro Oz. These one's are very short legged)<br />Working JRT's here have their own club, and Parson Russel Terriers go under national Kennel Club.<br /><br />Why I write this is that, at least here, PRT's are not just showdogs, but are used as to what they were bred to do. Hunt. Just yesterday I was hunting raccoon-dogs, we got 4 btw. We had some fresh starting dogs, and some veterans with us. We had total of 11 dogs with us, which of we used 6 to go under... ;-)<br />I myself (and wifey, who uses dogs also for agility) have 3 PRT's.<br />Their height variation is quite big, the bitch is 11.8", younger "boy" is 14.2" and the older "boy" is whopping 16.5". All fit in acceptable variation while ideal height for bitch is a bit under 13" and for male it's about 14.2" ;-) <br />Also scars and missing teeth etc. are acceptable in show rings, if the are from hunting accidents. <br /><br />In my point of view, both are the real deals. Here. I suppose it can be so also over there. <br />Happy Hunting.<br /><br />Jack / Finland Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09995814287855509538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-83302241233246510832013-02-01T15:25:22.465-05:002013-02-01T15:25:22.465-05:00"Shame on them if they breed out the game in ..."Shame on them if they breed out the game in a dog"<br /><br />I dunno baj, I'm thinking they do not deserve the "game". It takes a lot to make these creatures truly happy and I really do not think most pet owners have the stomach for it.<br />I will admit I was a bit shocked at the mayhem 2 fox terriers could produce (they were "ring rejects" so I got them free). I never "worked" them, just took them on loooooong walks and let them roam my couple of acres. The vet bills were nuts (adult woodchucks can really rip up a dog). Often I'd host play dates in my yard and the kids would find stray parts of animals here and there (including a severed skunk head. Weird!). I kept thinking, "what if normal people had purchased these dogs?".<br />I do see a lot of young JRTs on pet finder sites and can't help but think if they weren't so hyper and prey driven, perhaps they'd still have a home.npwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01464248755249077529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-65813327883851709282013-02-01T14:36:25.971-05:002013-02-01T14:36:25.971-05:00Dear P:
16 years ago we bought a JRT from a breede...Dear P:<br />16 years ago we bought a JRT from a breeder in Calistoga CA.Luna was the runt of the litter and very timid, she was the only one my 3 year old son could get his hands on. We had to protect the pup from his loving embrace. We saw the parents of Luna on display behind a fence. They were from Scotland, they were leaping high in the air and barking and growling at us with murderous intent. I told my wife that this cute little pup would be a handful but she was smitten. A year later we got a letter from the breeder saying that our JRT was a PRT due to new rules of confirmation. I never cared about this as we only wanted a pet but our broken rough coat PRT is a game as any dog with any brand. The act of crawling in a small hole is fine if that is your thing but it is the heart of these breeds and the mentality that make them great. The kennel clubs are a bureaucracy designed to make money and gratify egos. Shame on them if they breed out the game in a dog but please leave room for what is a truly great animal the PRT. bajhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07136434639304507010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-60983207317940803782013-02-01T11:08:49.758-05:002013-02-01T11:08:49.758-05:00..all akin to wine tasting..'the floral emepho.....all akin to wine tasting..'the floral emephones of bergamot tantalizing the fruitness flavors of the palate with renascence of millennium oak accenting the ambiance of fermented globules of utter passion..'<br /><br />As you might say Patrick..Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot!! bocthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03659354242134738822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-87528180832530894572012-05-28T23:03:20.088-04:002012-05-28T23:03:20.088-04:00When it comes to entries on these designer breeds ...When it comes to entries on these designer breeds (another example Shiloh shep) wiki is wholy unreliable since they are guarded by their fanatical breed enthusiasts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-9272865062165078262012-05-24T20:55:26.335-04:002012-05-24T20:55:26.335-04:00I do want to add that the JRTCA is as responsible ...I do want to add that the JRTCA is as responsible for conformation showing as any of the all-breed registries. In 1995, I got a JRT puppy that was dual-registered JRTCA and UKC. I set about entering him in any and every sport I could find. In JRTCA events, he did go-to-ground and flat & hurdle racing. We did not do conformation.<br /><br />In UKC, I entered him in obedience and agility. <br /><br />He also did "natural hunting underground," and was featured on the cover of True Grit.<br /><br />I don't know about now, but at that time, the JRTCA shows were these HUGE conformation events where racing and go-to-ground was just a sideline event. At some of them, there were 20+ different conformation classes, including things like "dog with best coat," "best 3-6 month male puppy," etc. <br /><br />To get ribbons in these *JRTCA* conformation shows, there was rampant crossing of JRTCAs to white Lakelands. The F1 generation looked like a JRT but "better." The F2s had lamb coats and weren't showable. I didn't want any part of this and stayed out of conformation, though I had dabbled in conformation with one dog of another breed in the past.<br /><br />Once my dog started earning agility and obedience titles in UKC--where we also DIDN'T show in conformation--the JRTCA kicked me out of the club. Their justification was that I was supporting a "conformation" registry. Even though I wasn't showing in conformation anywhere, and despite the JRTCA itself hosting trials with hundreds of dogs competing in conformation.<br /><br />After I got kicked out, I went ahead and added UKC conformation to the list. My dog became the national #1 UKC JRT in conformation, #2 in obedience, #1 in weight pull, and #7 in agility... and got to star in some Purina ads. BTW, he was neutered without being bred. I've never bred a litter in my life--I do conformation and every other sport purely for entertainment.<br /><br />Anyway, I've always found it quite hypocritical that JRTCA and the working terrier people condemn even competing in all-breed agility, when they themselves are making tons of money from conformation events. That's why I didn't bat an eyelash when I later got a Border Collie and showed him to an AKC championship, as well as competing at advanced levels of stockdog competition. <br /><br />Anyway, just wanted to add this perspective. The JRTCA is not as squeaky clean as you might guess...S.K.Y.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10394626858056890715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-36753276740898582002012-05-24T18:26:22.137-04:002012-05-24T18:26:22.137-04:00Have I told you lately I love you, Patrick? I'...Have I told you lately I love you, Patrick? I'm dealing with somebody over on fb on the breeder's discussion right now about what to breed for. Silly me, I said top priority should be working ability. You can pretty much guess that fell on deaf ears. They stated they are breeding after the "AKC Standard which they uphold regarding particular area's like feet, etc. but all designed with the working dog in mind." Seriously? And you know your dog will work how? When asked if they've ever hunted their terrier(s), they said they've done Earthdog competitions.Sherrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11175676291683022094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-32952115396268348662012-05-24T16:18:54.169-04:002012-05-24T16:18:54.169-04:00A writer for DogWorld (US) in the 1980s described ...A writer for DogWorld (US) in the 1980s described all KC breed histories as reading like they were written by a tipsy Manhattanite, typing with one hand while holding a martini in the other.Water Over The Damhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14324927014335083214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-33065621580980587912012-05-24T12:19:51.897-04:002012-05-24T12:19:51.897-04:00So, these geniuses are going to take a strain from...So, these geniuses are going to take a strain from within a "breed"; breed only that strain, and narrow their gene pool even more? <br /><br />I only went twice with earth work hunters. The one dog was missing about half its lips from coon bites. I wonder how she would have fared in the show ring with her perpetual snarl?The Midland Agrarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17214111067042466363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-15282107202693301582012-05-24T12:06:59.934-04:002012-05-24T12:06:59.934-04:00At least, for this working dog, there is a slight ...At least, for this working dog, there is a slight difference in the name between the pretender and the real deal.<br /><br />MarkPipedreamFarmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15689373141070251132noreply@blogger.com