tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post5419566478567112030..comments2024-03-26T22:16:26.572-04:00Comments on Terrierman's Daily Dose: A Canine Bully Has a Temper TantrumPBurnshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05781540805883519064noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-45902354393218508972016-03-12T15:06:46.567-05:002016-03-12T15:06:46.567-05:00I worked as a field canvasser for nearly 15 years ...I worked as a field canvasser for nearly 15 years and encountered thousands of dogs. Milan's observations and tips on handling this sort of interaction served me very well and allowed me to enjoy this aspect of my work...for this, he gets my respect and I now can give good advice to my daughter who just rescued her 1st dog.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14740076936591369892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-52646726554873408392014-08-23T22:53:00.049-04:002014-08-23T22:53:00.049-04:00Four and a half years later I want to comment on s...Four and a half years later I want to comment on some of the ideas in this very interesting repartee. I've had dogs all my life but only recently after getting some JRTs and reading this blog have I found how emotionally charged dog stuff can be! It is really strange to me that the idea of dominance is controversial to anyone who knows dogs (or wolves for that matter)! This post was interesting in particular because as a young man I had an Alaskan Husky (supposedly 1/4 wolf) that was the most dog dominant dog I've ever met. Among other adventures he bit the ear off my roommate's dog. Fortunately I was able to foist him off on my parents and their large estate. Anyway having 2 JRTs teaches one a lot about prey drive and dominance- my little black and white guys dominates a 110 lb. Anatolian Shepherd at the dog park... I really like this blog- it has sparked an interest in me for everything canine and I find that you have one of the finest tuned Bullshit-O-Meters I've found on the internet. <br /> <br />Jeff T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01520811975339950553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-52863415175751029842010-03-05T21:45:03.176-05:002010-03-05T21:45:03.176-05:00"Disclaimers" are a necessary part of mo..."Disclaimers" are a necessary part of modern life in America, whether a person has a TV show or some other endeavor. It's a first step in limiting liability suits. Don't ever forget that ANYONE can be sued ANYTIME for ANYTHING. That doesn't make a suit valid, as frivolous lawsuits are a serious problem in America. But, frivolous or not, you have to mount a legal defense if you get sued, which costs a lot of money. I wish we would adopt that part of the British system whereby the loser pays all legals fees. That would certainly clear our court dockets! <br /><br />SeahorseSeahorsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00133454380103294333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-86462576946998153142010-03-05T17:11:58.787-05:002010-03-05T17:11:58.787-05:00If Cesar is "an accident waiting to happen&qu...If Cesar is "an accident waiting to happen" it sure is a SLOOOOW accident. Millan has been at this a pretty long time. Sounds to me like some people want an accident to happen. Got that. How sick and malevolent is that? Of course if you want to read about accidents that ARE happening, just go to "Google News" and type in the words "Pit Bull" on any given day. Amazing!<br /><br />Millan works with very problematic pit bulls every day. You have someone else who does and has a TV show? Who is that? Maybe I do not watch enough TV (that is actually true). A rehomed Pit Bull, of course, is not the same as an aggressive one. Most Pits are pretty fine dogs if a person has a stable home and basic dog handing skills.<br /><br />You may be reading a little too much into the word "pack." Dogs are not wolves, but that does NOT mean they do not have a pecking order. Hell, chickens have a pecking order! Groups of dogs develop hierarchies. You know that. I know that. So too does Millan. What's the question? Do you not know who is in the alpha male and female slots among your own dogs? My Omega dog is not trying to be a Beta dog, or an Alpha dog. That is settled and it is settled for life. But YES it did have to get settled. <br /><br />As for the linked video, I think it speaks for itself. You are clearly looking for a pretext and a rationale to not like Millan. I am not. I am, in fact, completely neutral, as I do not need a rehabilitator and do not claim to be one. I just know how few there really are and I think *maybe* they have something to teach.<br /><br />You say you think "Millan's methods are outdated." <br /><br />What are his methods? <br /><br />And his methods to do WHAT? <br /><br />Do you think Millan is training dogs? He is not. <br /><br />Do you think habituation is outdated? It's not. <br /><br />Do you think extinction is outdated? It is not. <br /><br />Do you think a leash is outdated? It's not. <br /><br />Do you think excercise is outdated? It's not.<br /><br />Do you think consequences are outdated? They aren't.<br /><br />Do you think walking the dog is outdated? It's not.<br /><br />Do you think clarifying the point that dogs are not children is outdated? It's not.<br /><br />Do you think affection for the dogs is outdated? It's not.<br /><br />Do you think the notion that a dog trainer has to be calm is outdated? It's not.<br /><br />Do you think the notion that a dog trainer has to send clear and well-timed signals is outdated? It's not.<br /><br />So what is "the method" that is outdated, and what is it being used for again? <br /><br />This is a genuine question. <br /><br />I hear "his methods are outdated" from folks, but no one seems to know what that means in the context of what he does, which is rehabilitate dogs. <br /><br />WHAT is outdated, and what does that have to do with what he DOES? <br /><br />In the world of dogs today, we have a lot of follks who have yet to train a dog to catcth a frisbee who think they are experts at dog training and who do not understand that dog training and rehabilitation are slightly different things. I had one person come on this blog a while back and slag a man who has had working collies for 40 years, but he himself knew next to nothing except what he imagined in his mind. Glad you are not one of those!<br /><br />P.PBurnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05781540805883519064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-29698542542272016922010-03-05T15:07:35.917-05:002010-03-05T15:07:35.917-05:00Yes, PBurns, I have dogs and have been dealing wit...Yes, PBurns, I have dogs and have been dealing with dogs for over 50 years. I have dealt with many dog fights and have been chewed up badly. I personally don't hunt but I have family and friends who do. In fact, I have a cousin who has champion field and show dogs.<br /><br />I consider Milan's methods to be out dated and dangerous. If you study pack mentality, you will see that the leader is always having to fight off contenders. They rarely fight to the death because to kill a member of the pack hurts the entire pack, they need each other to hunt. What Milan fails to recognize is that when the contender is put in his/her place, that the contender doesn't lose the drive to up root the leader, it just stays in control until something happens to the leader. If the contender sees a weakness in the leader, then it makes another try at it. Pack mentality doesn't wait until the leader dies of old age, it is the superior member that takes over. So if Milan is subscribing to this theory, then he has to realize that it only puts off the aggression until something happens and then they go in for the "kill". <br /><br />I think Milan has a lot of good information but he is not wise in how he uses that. And although I am new to commenting, I have been following your blog for quite awhile and enjoy it very much. You seem to have a great deal of common sense although there are some things I would disagree with you on. Very informative blog and I commend you for it. However, I do disagree with you on Milan, I think he is an accident waiting to happen. <br /><br />The clip I sent shows that Milan didn't use good sense that day because he himself said that dogs become excited when they see their owners, yet he takes the dog out with his pack under those circumstances. Sorry, but I think he is not the brightest one on the block. And he is not the only one who works with aggressive animals yet the others don't have a disclaimer. As I understand, being in LA, that the disclaimer was a result of some lawsuits filed in LA against him. I haven't checked and that could be rumor. Being in LA, his home, I don't hear a lot of good things about him.Friends Administratorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04186180027314619778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-54079955626102096082010-03-05T05:13:02.009-05:002010-03-05T05:13:02.009-05:00Thank you, Patrick, for your long-time, steadfast,...Thank you, Patrick, for your long-time, steadfast, rational defense of Cesar Millan and his methods.<br /><br />I am frequently puzzled by the critics who seem so determined to misunderstand him, and even seem to be deliberately blind to what he actually does. No, he will not teach a dog how to fetch your slippers; he will teach a dog owner how to keep his dog alive.<br /><br />Although I am a total amateur (don't try this at home!) I have, with great care, used Cesar's methods to finally bring peace to my dog-plagued household, which includes a bullying, dog-aggressive fear biter whom I was once sure would have to be put down. He has strongly influenced the way I train my horses; my messages to them are now extremely clear, and we are all - the horses and I - relieved and happy.<br /><br />And as you mentioned, he has never criticized any other trainer or training method. He takes the high road all the time. He is a man who is not only highly skilled at what he does, but is also a man whose character others should admire and imitate...especially those who shamelessly attack him without reason - except, perhaps, envy.<br /><br />Not only should Cesar Millan not be vilified, he should be knighted.<br /><br />Thanks again, Patrick.Cassandra Was Righthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14329209006766816889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-3824533012190482482010-03-05T04:37:45.572-05:002010-03-05T04:37:45.572-05:00Thanks Melissa Jo!
I will reiterate a point I hav...Thanks Melissa Jo!<br /><br />I will reiterate a point I have made before, which is that I have NEVER heard Cesar Millan say anything bad about any other form of dog training. <br /><br />And why would he? <br /><br />They are doing something different than what he is doing, and vice versa. <br /><br />You do not go to Cesar Millan if you want your dog to learn how to bounce a biscuit off his nose! If that's what you want, there are a 100,000 people out there who can help. But there are not too many people working with dogs that have real serious issues, and even fewer who know what they are doing. <br /><br />Millan is a rare thing, and there is something to learn here if people will watch, listen and understand what is being done and why it works and in what situations it works. <br /><br />And YES, thre are basic lessons to be taught about ALL training that can be learned here.<br /><br />PatrickPBurnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05781540805883519064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-83840705194330798632010-03-05T01:42:57.953-05:002010-03-05T01:42:57.953-05:00Patrick, your blog came up on one of my million a ...Patrick, your blog came up on one of my million a day google alerts and I read it (and the comments) with interest. I'm one of the executive producers of the show, and also Cesar's co-writer. <br />There are about half a dozen out-of-context clips taken from over 150 Dog Whisperer episodes (and well over 300 individual cases) that show up on the internet again and again as "evidence" of Cesar's "cruelty." Always the same clips, with no explanations, just cut right in the middle of the most intense moment of the rehab. Shadow is one of those clips. No matter that Shadow's owners have made public statements denouncing the charges of asphyxiation, blue tongue, kicking, hanging, and all the rest of those outrageous words. I think you're the first blogger who has actually explained pretty accurately what really happened in that segment. <br />I would hope the average dog owner, if they had a dog as dangerously aggressive as Shadow, would not attempt to imitate Cesar themselves, but would do as the Arents did and call in a professional. And if any previous professional had been able to solve this problem with clickers, treats, or avoidance, the Arents wouldn't have contacted our show. I don't know off the top of my head how Shadow is doing...though we do keep up with all the past cases from the show and are pleased with the average 80% success rate of owners who continue to follow Cesar's advice of exercise, discipline (that means rules, boundaries and limitations), and affection in that order, and strong, calm-assertive leadership and guidance inside and outside of their home.<br />By the way, for anyone who is interested in real wolf-hybrids, we have a special on them airing later this season. We bring in a wolf behavior specialist from Mission Wolf in Colorado to work with Cesar on three wolf-hybrid cases of varying difficulty.<br />The moral of the wolf-hybrid story? Wild and domestic don't mix. <br />(And whoever left the stat about the violent tendencies of wolves in the wild is correct - the single greatest cause of death in wild wolves is territorial disputes with other wolves. Wolves are not naturally aggressive, but they are possessive of their food and their territory, and have a prey drive that was domesticated out of the canis familiaris we bring into our homes. Wolf-hybrids can end up with the boldness of a dog but the overdeveloped prey drive of a wolf, making them deadly for small animals and often, small children. And many of them don't have much of the domestic dog's inborn desire to please us.) Just say "No" to wolf-hybrids, please!<br />Thanks again, Patrick, for your very insightful analysis of this segment. And Cesar himself aside, for all those who are worried out there, the crew of Dog Whisperer are all dog owners and dog lovers ourselves. We're NOT standing by silently while dogs are being "choked" right under our noses. We love what we do because we know we have helped so many people and dogs. And saved many from unecessary euthanasia.<br />I hope you keep watching - lots of amazing new shows coming up.<br />Melissa Jo PeltierUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08128026551333547591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-48368565202177453702010-03-05T00:14:07.342-05:002010-03-05T00:14:07.342-05:00One of my first jobs was as a dog baby sitter back...One of my first jobs was as a dog baby sitter back in the day when that was a completely bizarre thing to say you did. I took care of 15 or so large dogs (GSDs, Labs, mutts, etc.), in the home of an extremely eccentric and unevenly tempered (read that "total nut job"!) physician who took in all manner of mutts and purebreds. All the dogs were kept in the basement, in three separate rooms, with the majority living in one large room together. It was imperative to pay CLOSE attention to everything as fights could break out if one was less than vigilant. Some dogs hated each other, and yet because of the lay out I was forced to have them walk past their enemies to go outside. I also had to feed them their only meal each day, all at the same time, though in their respective areas. In the 18 months I worked that job (I worked a 45 hour week, 5 days a week), I never had a fight, but I'd come in on Mondays and hear the horrors that had happened over the weekend. Evidently, the fights were epic. <br /><br />The situation in that house was as close to an asylum as anything I've ever seen. The dogs were incredibly stressed, the people were nuts and the variables were numerous, and yet at 18 I handled it with relative ease. For me it was all so avoidable, but you had to be careful, in control and observant. It's not rocket science and I wasn't some sort of magical dog trainer. It's largely about being consistent and not letting events get out ahead of you. <br /><br />SeahorseSeahorsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00133454380103294333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-8357075581689012172010-03-04T21:58:08.228-05:002010-03-04T21:58:08.228-05:00P (who is entirely anonymous and has never been on...P (who is entirely anonymous and has never been on this blog before), do you actually HAVE any dogs? <br /><br />Because if you have never seen a dog fight or had dogs fight in your own pack (much less a pack of dogs with "issues" who have come to be rehabilitated because of those issues) then you are pretty new to dogs (or perhaps you have retrievers, LOL). <br /><br />Does a dog fight scare you? Have you never stitched up a dog? No? <br /><br />Do you hunt? Every had one dog claim game the other dog thought was his? Have you ever been in a car where one dog claimed space the other thought was his? Have you never had a dog come to a property and get attacked by the dog it already knew -- a spacial claim situation? No? Then very new to dogs!<br /><br />As for the disclaimer at the beginning of the show, it is there for the obvious reason that Millan is in the business of REHABILITATING dogs that are often quite aggressive and damaged. He is not training dogs, he is RE-HABILITATING broken dogs. And NO, that is not a job for instant-expert wannabes, any more than sword-swallowing is. The instant experts get a clicker and a cheese ball and a pamphlet on how to use them both together. If they read the pamphlet, they might be able to train their dog to come when called if you give them a few weeks. At the worst, their dog will be only a little more confused, and a little fatter than when it left.<br /><br />PatrickPBurnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05781540805883519064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-85649885091503060302010-03-04T21:38:59.453-05:002010-03-04T21:38:59.453-05:00Milan's shows have a disclaimer at the beginni...Milan's shows have a disclaimer at the beginning and for good reason. Also have you seen this video called "Dueling Pit Bulls"? Seems Milan failed to heed his own advice which came conviently AFTER the incident. http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/dog-whisperer/3263/Overview#tab-Videos/05666_00<br /><br />Any one who doesn't know a dog can be "excited' by seeing their owners and thus starting a fight, must not know dogs very well. Note how his "pack" goes at it as well.Friends Administratorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04186180027314619778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-75463694775010791942010-03-04T20:26:01.980-05:002010-03-04T20:26:01.980-05:00Just to add to your point about wild wolves never ...Just to add to your point about wild wolves never attacking each other Patrick, The Yellowstone Wolves have been studied more closely than any wild wolves in history.<br />http://www.nps.gov/yell/naturescience/upload/wolfar2008_9_09.pdf<br /><br />The leading cause of death of adult wolves in Yellowstone(approx 50%) is intraspecies aggression. So we have some good data showing that romanticized views of wild wolves are just wrong.Bartimaeushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04041170926124714639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-15989212615074185472010-03-04T18:51:56.879-05:002010-03-04T18:51:56.879-05:00Viatecio, you are a little ahead of me -- Jonbee i...Viatecio, you are a little ahead of me -- Jonbee is for tomorrow, when I go over habituation and exinction :)<br /><br />As for the breed of dog, it does not matter too much. Pot-A-toes, vs. po-tah-toes as far as I am concerned.<br /><br />Hukies have had wolves crossed into them since the beginning and there are several kinds of wolves in North America (two in Alaska alone), so no one can just "look and tell" whether a dog is a huskie or a wolf. <br /><br />Native American dogs WERE wolves in all appearance, to the point that when the tribes fell due to disease, most of the "wolves" being shot on the Plains were actually feral Indian dogs (a village of 100 people could have 1,000 dogs, as the native dog was the only pack animal in North America prior to the arrival of the horse). <br /><br />Is this animal *probably* a simple Husky? Yes. But that's just the odds. Very few of the "wolf-dog" hybrids actually have wolf in them. <br /><br />That said, the notion that a wild wolf and a tame wolf share ANYTHING in common in terms of basic temperament re: shyness is demonstrably wrong. Wolves raised in captivity are not shy, and are routinely taken out to be exhibited to school children. <br /><br />But yes WILD animals are shy. That is true for ALL wild animals. A red fox that is wild is a very shy animal, but it is possible to socialize a captive fox to the point that it will hang out with the Jack Russell on the back porch. This is wildlife 101, and it is as true for wolves as it is for black bears, cougars and hawks. <br /><br />Are wolf-dog crosses harder to handle than most pure dogs? Apparently. But it may simply be that people who own wolf-dog crosses are the same kind of people who want "rednose pit bulls" because they have "locking jaws." A Harley Davidson does not make you a person stupider, but there IS a correlation even if there is no causality. It could simply be that violent, stupid and emotionally immature people are more likely to own wolf-dog hybrids and therefore those dogs tend to "act out" more than normal by maiming people and other dogs. <br /><br />P.PBurnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05781540805883519064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-4261119857119846252010-03-04T18:22:48.015-05:002010-03-04T18:22:48.015-05:00Wolf Hybrid my ass. It's just an oversized AKC...Wolf Hybrid my ass. It's just an oversized AKC-type husky. That dog is acting like a dominant/aggressive dog, not an overstimulated/aggressive wolf.<br /><br />From Patricia McConnell's "For the Love of A Dog":<br /><br />"Wolves are notoriously shy, so much so that researchers used to crawl into wolf dens and handle the pups while the parents hid in fear. These are the same animals who'll fight off grizzly bears to protect their pups, so bravery is not the issue--familiarity is. Remember, fear of the unfamiliar improves your chances of staying alive if you live in the wild..."<br /><br />In addition, wolves and wolf hybrids are notorious for being able to live in close proximity to humans during the puppy stage (usually to about six or eight months, but sometimes up to a year or two) as long as they are kept in familiar surroundings, but to revert back to the more suspicious, fearful ways of their kin as they age or are taken out into the world.<br /><br />Milan would have never gotten that dog outside with a camera crew for these shots if it was a mature wolf hybrid.Staceyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02633249028174585430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-9165166875877168292010-03-04T17:15:15.497-05:002010-03-04T17:15:15.497-05:00I do not know Millan, but I also do not let broad ...I do not know Millan, but I also do not let broad assertions stand without at least *some* support. <br /><br />You say "There are plenty of clear examples of him doing patently stupid things, and reading dogs completely wrong, why not pick from them?"<br /><br />Can you name one and provide a link and explain what you think he did wrong (and what you think is right)?<br /><br />P.PBurnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05781540805883519064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-13019549020618920862010-03-04T17:13:13.081-05:002010-03-04T17:13:13.081-05:00Don't forget that this clip is also in content...Don't forget that <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjLDQmgYd-s" rel="nofollow">this clip</a> is also in contention for "Most AbYOOsive episode EVAR" prize.<br /><br />Notice how the DOG is the one doing all the thrashing and snarking and jumping around like a shithead? Notice how Cesar is NOT jerking or hanging or even attempting at all to asphyxiate/strangle the dog like some other "Trainers" would be doing?<br /><br />I'm reminded of cartoon fights where one character is punching and kicking another, so the bigger guy just picks up the one where he hangs in the air flailing and punching nothing until he's just hanging there panting. I know there's a part in The Jungle Book where that happens, I think with Baloo and Mowgli, but I can't find the video. Baloo just lets the kid fight it out, and then puts him down again when they can have a civilized conversation. This is exactly what I see with Jonbee, and the only reason the leash is taut is because Cesar needs to keep the dog from tangling himself in it.<br /><br />For remaining as calm as he does, during and after each event, the man has EARNED my respect.<br /><br />As much as a common comeback as "Well I'd like to see YOU try it" is (and as immature as it can be), I really would like to see a clicker/positive-only trainer deal with a dog like this without saying "Euthanize," "Rehome," "Could take months/years" or any derivations thereof.<br /><br />Has anything this dramatic ever happened on that BDSM stiletto-heeled wannabe-trainer's show? Or does she just do obedience/lower-key problems? I don't watch it, so I do ask out of genuine curiosity.Viateciohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08523551407472141202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-21169897025807659002010-03-04T16:27:13.353-05:002010-03-04T16:27:13.353-05:00Yup, sometimes Mr. Milan does good things.
It con...Yup, sometimes Mr. Milan does good things.<br /><br />It confuses me why some people try to condemn *everything* he does. There are plenty of clear examples of him doing patently stupid things, and reading dogs completely wrong, why not pick from them?adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04605428127471399424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-6030711593130982802010-03-04T16:24:07.037-05:002010-03-04T16:24:07.037-05:00I'm flying by, too, Patrick, and appreciate yo...I'm flying by, too, Patrick, and appreciate you "yes-ing" my posts, even if I've made errors. Here is the direct link to Endospink's You Tube page (Paul Williamson). <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/user/endospink<br /><br />As the rearer's video is a couple of years old, one has to scroll down the page a ways. He has a video update there, too, along with the rest of his fascinating videos, several showing him "tapping" the horses (and some done just for fun...he has quite a sense of humor). <br /><br />Seahorse--> out to earn an honest living training horses, too ;)Seahorsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00133454380103294333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-15501438250849324952010-03-04T15:48:59.104-05:002010-03-04T15:48:59.104-05:00THANKS for the link Jake -- looks like a fascinati...THANKS for the link Jake -- looks like a fascinating book and one I could use. On the (not too long) list!!<br /><br />PatrickPBurnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05781540805883519064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-21384438135853902292010-03-04T15:45:24.557-05:002010-03-04T15:45:24.557-05:00I don't know if you know this book, Canine Bod...I don't know if you know this book,<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Canine-Body-Language-Photographic-Interpreting/dp/1929242352/ref=pd_rhf_shvl_1" rel="nofollow"> Canine Body Language: A Photographic Guide Interpreting the Native Language of the Domestic Dog</a> but I love it. I love it because it is not crystal clear, the diffrent postures shown can be very very similar but meen express very different intentions. It made me realise how subtle my dog is being and how much more practice I need to be able to react real time to dogs I am not familiar with.<br /><br />JakeJacobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13787538619431861895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-17115396173646589712010-03-04T15:41:04.850-05:002010-03-04T15:41:04.850-05:00I've been flying today -- saying "yes&quo...I've been flying today -- saying "yes" to comments from regulars without even reading them (I figured I'd play catch up when the surf abated), so I missed the vid clip link problem, but now that I have gone to see the horse clip, I might use in a future post about extinguishing. This is an under-used training technique and can be very powerful in the right circumstances. As I noted in the Dogs Today article posteed a week or two back, not too many dogs are barking at the refrigerator door in order to get it to open!<br /><br />P.PBurnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05781540805883519064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-13511415363390043812010-03-04T15:16:35.510-05:002010-03-04T15:16:35.510-05:003Laiki, I caught my mistake afterward and asked Pa...3Laiki, I caught my mistake afterward and asked Patrick to fix it for me. I was reading another post from this blog and copied the wrong link, DOH! Glad I'm not the only one here who is familiar with Paul. He's truly masterful at working quickly, by necessity of the racing business, and helping the animals. I'd recommend viewing as many of his videos as one has time for, as there is something for everyone in watching how easy it looks when done with no drama and great skill.<br /><br />SeahorseSeahorsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00133454380103294333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-45488999881560478102010-03-04T14:43:09.589-05:002010-03-04T14:43:09.589-05:00Clicker trainer: "Those other trainers with ...Clicker trainer: "Those other trainers with their CHOKE collars that they use to TORTURE the poor goggies are all CRUEL. We clicker trainers are kind and gentle and laugh in the sunshine."<br /><br />Balanced trainer: "WTF?!"<br /><br />Clicker trainer: "Why all this RAGE against clicker trainers?"Heather Houlahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13891198124130533198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-82862305013891218432010-03-04T13:43:12.384-05:002010-03-04T13:43:12.384-05:00Seahorse! Glad you brought up Endospink. I enjoy...Seahorse! Glad you brought up Endospink. I enjoy watching his videos. However, your link was for Vicks Vapor Rub First Defense. Funny...but not what you were going for. Try this one instead: http://www.youtube.com/user/endospink?blend=1&ob=4#p/u/3/cBcQsVdxEA83Laikihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12555606241643348917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-84364572326479163822010-03-04T13:43:12.385-05:002010-03-04T13:43:12.385-05:00OOPS! I dropped the wrong link! See if this one wo...OOPS! I dropped the wrong link! See if this one works:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/user/endospink#p/u/40/BIRijhSj0PQ<br /><br />Patrick, if you care to bother, you can fix my original post and delete this, thanks!<br /><br />SeahorseSeahorsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00133454380103294333noreply@blogger.com