tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post3325594107217634441..comments2024-03-26T22:16:26.572-04:00Comments on Terrierman's Daily Dose: Is There a Kennel Club Road to Reform?PBurnshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05781540805883519064noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-78547583146286803372011-12-17T01:24:05.746-05:002011-12-17T01:24:05.746-05:00Great ideas, it's time some breeders started t...Great ideas, it's time some breeders started to look at what is happening to their dogs, and for people that are only into the supposed cash from breeding to smarten up or stop.<br /> I own a flat coated retriever, and two years ago she was diagnosed with osteosarcoma in her jaw. The vet managed to remove that part of her lower jaw, and the entire process of diagnosis up to this day my family and I kept running into individuals that had heard or had had a flat coat with cancer. <br /><br />Since my dog poses an interesting subject I started looking up veterinary schools or someone who would benefit from the remains of my dog when she passes so as to assist figuring out how we can help flat coats. I found out there is an association in the states that provides funding to veterinary projects examining ways to improve the flat coats health.<br /> I plan to contact them and see whether they would want my dogs body when she passes.<br /> I know that despite the thought might make me slightly uncomfortable it's the right thing to do and hopefully will help other flat coats and their owners.AAshby42https://www.blogger.com/profile/14165374916234141964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-38639816900990634382008-11-24T12:51:00.000-05:002008-11-24T12:51:00.000-05:00the horse wolrd faces simular issues, just not to ...the horse wolrd faces simular issues, just not to the extent. warmblood horse breeders allow other breds to be evaluated and ok'd as breeders, ie: a thoroughbred stallion could be a registered breeder for the hanovarian society. this would be an acceptable way to introduce outside crosses into "damaged" breeds. visla's and weimeriamers could be outcrossed, and ever perhaps the ridgeback, simpular build, simular origins, etc. i think that is a wonderful idea. much like breeding in the occassional lakeland in a jack russell pedigree.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-38166482187652539052008-11-22T11:18:00.000-05:002008-11-22T11:18:00.000-05:00Since most of AKC conformation dog showing is poli...Since most of AKC conformation dog showing is political instead of functional(in my opinion, anyway), enough political pressure may actually have a chance to change things for the better in regards to healthy dog breeding. AKC People REALLY BELIEVED that their methods were producing superior dogs, and it is FINALLY being driven home that they are not.Let's hope this leads to more sensible breeding practices--they can all take a lesson from the Basenji people, who continue to open the stud books and allow outcrosses from Africa into the formerly narrow bloodlines of this breed(although even closely inbred Basenjis were still considerably more natural and functional than pugs or pekingnese). And for Susan Fox--go to a Wal-Mart; look in the cheapo movie/DVD bin and find the old 1930's Rin-Tin-Tin series and buy it for $5 bucks; and watch what German Shepherds USED to be! Scenes of them running IN FRONT of GALLOPING horses! Beautiful! But virtually non-existent running ability in GSD's these days, alas....L.B.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-13206163970393821542008-11-22T06:16:00.000-05:002008-11-22T06:16:00.000-05:00The money would still come from registrations, but...The money would still come from registrations, but not <BR/>registrations of LITTERS of dogs, but registration of individual dogs. <BR/><BR/>Instead of registering a litter of dogs for $20, the breeder or owner would register EACH DOG for $20. Yes, that's a pass through cost to the dog buyer, but what's $15 (the marginal difference) on the price of a dog? Nothing! <BR/><BR/>Under this scenario, even if there was a fall off in registrations, there would not be a fall off in dollars.<BR/><BR/>The problem is that right now the the Kennel Club is engaged in "Jug Wine Economics" where they see dogs and registrations as a pure commodity; their dogs are just like every other dog. Sadly, due to inbreeding and selection for deformity that's not true; many Kennel Club breeds are actually WORSE that pound dogs.<BR/><BR/>But it does not have to be that way.<BR/><BR/>It would not take too many changes for them to go from the "Jug Wine" commodity business to the "Wine With Bottle and Cork" business. But they need to improve the wine (i.e. the dog) in order to do that. As for the a price increase on registrations, studies have shown that people will gladly pay a higher price and often assume a higher price means a better product. In this case, if a dog were in a health recovery program (call it a "Breed Integrity" program if you prefer), people would have a reason to feel better and pay more.<BR/><BR/>Patrick <BR/><BR/><BR/>y" with the other. They are confused. The are unclear as to whether they want to be in the business of selling Jug Wine (it will get you stoned, same as the other stuff), or whether they want to be in the bottle wine with real cork business (our wine actually tastes good and is not cut with ethelyne glycol to sweeeten it).PBurnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05781540805883519064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-27035521757411063842008-11-21T22:50:00.000-05:002008-11-21T22:50:00.000-05:00The program itself looks sound, but I do have one ...The program itself looks sound, but I do have one question.<BR/><BR/>In the past, you've blogged extensively on why the AKC (and presumably the UK club has the same problem) looks the other way for puppy mills: because they cannot afford to dump them, as the registration money is their lifeblood.<BR/><BR/>With a program like this, registrations would drop massively at the same time as the costs of implementing the program- also presumably massive just due to the data gathering and research inherent in several of your measures. (Which, again, I think are really good ideas.)<BR/><BR/>Where does the money come from?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-5669477193172948862008-11-21T14:39:00.000-05:002008-11-21T14:39:00.000-05:00My only question is how do we get the AKC to do it...My only question is how do we get the AKC to do it, too. If I see one more crippled looking GSD, I'll scream (quietly). <BR/><BR/>Isn't everything you describe just as bad on this side of the pond? Wouldn't the same plan work here also because the good breeders would step up to the plate?<BR/><BR/>(By the by, the terrier painting you so kindly promoted (along with me) is now available as a limited edition (300) giclee print. Also, I'm still getting traffic on my blog from that post. Yeah!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-1643960529510090812008-11-21T12:26:00.000-05:002008-11-21T12:26:00.000-05:00I don't see the downside to what you've proposed. ...I don't see the downside to what you've proposed. There might be some fall off in numbers for a hugely popular breed with massive defects (like Cavs, Chihuahuas and British Bulldogs), but that will just allow for the healthy dogs to rise to the top. Besides, if people will leave a breed BECAUSE it is being put back on the road to health that's a GOOD thing; those people are the source of all problems anyway.<BR/><BR/>DaveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com