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Actually, the woman should have been holding the phone and the man trying to talk to the woman. Being a female, I have long realized that that the majority of women would always prefer to engage in meaningless chatter about other people, aka "gossip," rather than discuss ideas, events, etc. Geez, I'd rather talk sports with a man than sit through the average agonizingly stultifying one-way convo that charaterizes the majority of women-speak. Much easier to hold a good conversation with a man.
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