tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post3088591129352360691..comments2024-03-26T22:16:26.572-04:00Comments on Terrierman's Daily Dose: Harry Potter Dog TrainingPBurnshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05781540805883519064noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-192649524404862962018-10-28T09:15:47.509-04:002018-10-28T09:15:47.509-04:00When our dog was about three yo he started gettin ...When our dog was about three yo he started gettin upset and barking wildly at other dogs we passed when he was on leash. I asked a trainer about getting help with this and she said it was too late. Reading this post I realize that she probably meant too late for my husband and I, not for the dog. We researched and have made some changes and he is much better but it still happens occassionally 3 yr later. It would have been nice to have some guidance. We live in a semi rural area without a lot of trainers, but I probably shouldnt have given up on getting help so easily either. concretenprimroseshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12615278788874155439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-2833255601987709922011-09-18T05:36:03.157-04:002011-09-18T05:36:03.157-04:00He does indeed, but it does not work. Hagrid is n...He does indeed, but it does not work. Hagrid is not much of a magician (he flunked or was tossed out out of school) and his wand broke and was not properly repaired. And yet he is professor of beasts at Hogwarts even without wand work! And why do people with wands need to be taught anything at all about animals? And the answer, of course, is that wands do not work very well with animals. If they did, Professor Lupin and Sirius Black might not have a basket case lives.<br /><br />PPBurnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05781540805883519064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-2576067381061653992011-09-17T23:39:11.077-04:002011-09-17T23:39:11.077-04:00But Hagrid does do some wand waving in the first b...But Hagrid does do some wand waving in the first book - to give Dudley a pig's tail when he's squealing about Harry's birthday cake.aficathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733436098514802285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-6366780590754446912011-09-17T13:10:51.851-04:002011-09-17T13:10:51.851-04:00I love this post!I love this post!Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02321392321684511975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-14115243334291733412011-09-17T06:01:06.113-04:002011-09-17T06:01:06.113-04:00This is true -- a dog is a dog. It is a unique th...This is true -- a dog is a dog. It is a unique thing, and perhaps this should be talked about a little more.<br /><br />You see, while a dog is not a chicken or a dolphin (more on that in a second), chickens, dogs, and dolphins and most other animals (including humans) can be taught quickly and easily by operant conditioning. <br /><br />On this point there is no debate. <br /><br />Now, of course, not all rewards are the same. Animals eat different things, some animals do better with toys or activity rather than food, some do better with light, sound or hand signals, etc. But operant conditioning works for all.<br /><br />But operant conditioning teaches tricks. It teaches a response to a call. It does not teach the animal (chicken, dog, dolphin, human) his place in the world. It does not provide the animal with mental health.<br /><br />Having said that all animals can be taught tricks through operant conditioning, it should also be said that all animals have different natures. For example, it is a good thing to remember that one animal is called a KILLER Whale. Forget that, and see if it does not kill someone. Chickens too have a dark killer side, as I have noted. A Chicken McNugget tastes very much like Tyranosaurus Rex!<br /><br />What about dogs? Dogs are dogs. And to put a point on it, they are not wolves. Does that mean that they are not so very closely related to wolves, that they do not share a lot of similar behaviors? No, of course not. Very similar, but different too. A bit like a pencil and crayon.<br /><br />For links on pieces where I have written a bit more on this see:<br /><br />** They Invented Animal Training >> http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2010/05/they-invented-animal-training.html (a special thanks to Bob Bailey who read this piece before publishing!)<br /><br />** A Dog is Neither Shovel Nor Child >> http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2010/12/dog-is-neither-shovel-nor-child.html<br /><br />The Three Parts of Operant Conditioning >> http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2010/02/three-parts-of-operant-conditioning.html<br /><br />Your Dogs are a Mess (and your kids are no prize) >> http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2010/02/your-dogs-are-mess-and-your-kids-are-no.html<br /><br />Clicker Training Does Not Require Empathy >> http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2010/03/clicker-training-does-not-require.html<br /><br />** Calm and Assertive Clicker Training >> http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2010/02/calm-and-assertive-clicker-training.html<br /><br />Killer Whales and the Limits of "Click and Treat" >> http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2010/02/killer-whales-and-limits-of-click-and.html<br /><br />Catching a Mexican Wolf With a Y Pole >> http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2010/03/catching-mexican-wolf-with-y-pole.html<br /><br />PPBurnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05781540805883519064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-19885949345208268732011-09-16T22:39:08.964-04:002011-09-16T22:39:08.964-04:00It should be mentioned that Hagrid also understood...It should be mentioned that Hagrid also understood one key idea. That a Griffon was a Griffon, a Dragon a Dragon, and each should be trained accordingly. <br /> <br />Dog trainers would be wise to remember that at the end of the day a dog is a dog, and not, for example, a dolphin or a chicken.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-18636759841456245202011-09-16T09:11:37.094-04:002011-09-16T09:11:37.094-04:00Funny and Oh So true! I have often used the gym me...Funny and Oh So true! I have often used the gym membership analogy with my training clients. Getting people to change some pretty deep seated patterns and personality traits is almost impossible. Witness the poor personal trainer! I think the lack of acknowledgement of this makes for plenty of trainer burnout. I know I always feel awful cashing client checks when I know their chances of success are often limited.<br />The client really has to be able to experience a shift in perspective and discussing this with them is often more valuable than countless hours discussing technique. <br />I try to present training in the context of "raising" your children as opposed to teaching them skill sets (algebra, etc). A child (or dog) who's everyday raising is balanced, steady and consistant will be a more of a pleasure to be with than a genuis at Latin who has not been well raised. It's a 24 hour a day "way of being" with their dogs. Vocabulary building is really secondary.<br />Enjoyed the validation! I'm not alone in my frustration.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-80538638867019779632011-09-16T08:06:35.105-04:002011-09-16T08:06:35.105-04:00Most homeless people with dogs do not read much an...Most homeless people with dogs do not read much and certainly they are not getting magazines or reading blogs or buying devices from pet stores, and yet they almost always have well-centered and well-behaved dogs because they have given their dogs their time and a life of experience in the real world outside of living rooms and yards. Even if the dog does not know how to run weave poles (and really, what dog needs to know that?), they know how to greet strangers, to come when called, and not to freak out when the unknown and unusual presents itself. Time with owner and experience in the world covers a lot of ground.<br /><br />PPBurnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05781540805883519064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684843.post-60812773732471596432011-09-16T06:36:18.509-04:002011-09-16T06:36:18.509-04:00Great post. Really the whole secret to dog trainin...Great post. Really the whole secret to dog training is TIME. I am convinced that if someone spends enough time with his dog, even if he has not read books or absorbed any theory, the dog will "get" trained. Unless the person is totally disordered himself, of course. It is the same "secret" to raising kids. Time and attention.Richard Gilberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02295157685034187345noreply@blogger.com